Legislature(2007 - 2008)BUTROVICH 205

02/01/2008 08:00 AM Senate SPECIAL COMMITTEE ON EDUCATION


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08:07:30 AM Start
08:08:43 AM SB241HIDETHISWHENFINISHED
08:54:06 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
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*+ SCR 16 EDUCATION FUNDING/COST FACTOR COMMISSION TELECONFERENCED
<Bill Hearing Postponed to 2/6/08>
*+ SB 241 UNIV. REPORT: TEACHER TRAINING/RETENTION TELECONFERENCED
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         SB 241-UNIV. REPORT: TEACHER TRAINING/RETENTION                                                                    
                                                                                                                              
CHAIR STEVENS announced consideration of SB 241.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:08:43 AM                                                                                                                    
TIM LAMKIN,  Staff, Senator  Stevens, presented  an overview  of SB
241.  He  said the  bill  is  the  product  of work  by  the  Joint                                                             
Legislative Education  Funding Task  Force (JLEFTF). The  spirit of                                                             
the  bill is  to bring  the University  of Alaska  and the  regents                                                             
into closer  dialogue with the  legislature regarding  teacher/work                                                             
force development in Alaska.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:10:03 AM                                                                                                                    
PAT  PITNEY, Vice  President, Planning  and  Budget, University  of                                                             
Alaska  Southeast (UAS),  Juneau,  AK, said  she  would provide  an                                                             
overview  of activities  related to  teacher training,  recruitment                                                             
and  retention.  She  said  a  timely  and  formal  report  to  the                                                             
legislature  could  easily be  accomplished.  She  said the  Alaska                                                             
Commission  of Postsecondary  Education (ACPE)  and the  Department                                                             
of Labor  and Workforce Development  (DOLWD) have information  that                                                             
could  add to  the  overall  scope of  increasing  Alaskan  teacher                                                             
recruitment.  She said those testifying  would provide  an overview                                                             
of programs designed to move toward this goal.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said that  his oldest daughter  received her  MAT in                                                             
teaching  from  UAS   and  is  now  pursuing  a  PhD   in  Clinical                                                             
Psychology.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:13:31 AM                                                                                                                    
JOHN  PUGH,  Chancellor,  University  of  Alaska  Southeast  (UAS),                                                             
Juneau, AK,  said he was the former  Dean of Arts and  Sciences and                                                             
Education  at  UAS and  the  creator  of the  Master's  program  in                                                             
teaching  at UAS.  He  said the  university  realized  there was  a                                                             
problem  in  nursing  and health  a  few  years  ago and  met  with                                                             
hospitals  and nursing  associations  to put  together an  enhanced                                                             
nursing program  that could  double the number  of nurses.  He said                                                             
the  same  incentive  is  motivating   the  university  to  seek  a                                                             
solution to the teacher shortage problem.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:15:11 AM                                                                                                                    
LARRY  HARRIS, Dean,  School of  Education, UAS,  Juneau, AK,  said                                                             
the  university offers  beginning  teachers  initial  certification                                                             
with a  Bachelor  Degree (BA)  in Elementary  Education, a  program                                                             
that  has grown  from  40 students  to  80 students  currently.  He                                                             
added  this is  not a  guarantee that  80 students  will  graduate.                                                             
Students  are allowed to  complete their  program from a  distance.                                                             
They  are on  campus for  the  first couple  of  years after  which                                                             
they  return to  their home  community  in Southeast  Alaska  where                                                             
they complete their course work and practicum experience.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. HARRIS  said there are three  Master of Arts in Teaching  (MAT)                                                             
programs:  a one-year  program in  elementary  education in  Juneau                                                             
which will  be expanded  next fall to  include Sitka and  Ketchikan                                                             
to hopefully  double the enrollment;  a secondary MAT  program with                                                             
cohorts in  Juneau and Sitka; and  a third cohort residing  between                                                             
Craig, Homer  and Wasilla that  accommodates 30 students.  The plan                                                             
is to target  more science and math  teachers. A third  MAT program                                                             
is a  distance-delivered  two-to-three year  program in  elementary                                                             
education.  It has about 60  students from  all over the  state who                                                             
already have a BA.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:18:48 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. HARRIS  said other programs  for experienced teachers  include:                                                             
a   reading   specialist   program;  a   program   in   educational                                                             
technology;  and  a math  education  program  with 13  students  in                                                             
rural  middle schools  for teachers  not qualified  to teach  math.                                                             
There's  a huge  shortage  of  special  education teachers  in  the                                                             
state. The  university's  special education  programs work  with 36                                                             
students  in  Bethel,   Wasilla,  Kake,  Northwest   Arctic  School                                                             
District  and other districts.  The students  are already  teaching                                                             
in the  classroom  while becoming  qualified  as special  education                                                             
teachers. The  program was changed  last year from an  endorsement-                                                             
only program to a MAT and the enrollment tripled.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  said   he  appreciated  the  innovative   programs,                                                             
especially  the  one-year  teacher   education  program  which  his                                                             
daughter participated  in at  UAS. He asked  if the university  has                                                             
this program in other parts of the state.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:22:29 AM                                                                                                                    
MARY  SNYDER,   Dean,   University  of   Alaska  Anchorage   (UAA),                                                             
Anchorage,  AK, said the  university has  addressed the problem  of                                                             
its  lengthy special  education program  with  a new  certification                                                             
program. There  were 100  students who graduated  last year  with a                                                             
total of  217 graduating  with a  BA or an  MAT. The  undergraduate                                                             
programs   at  UAA   are  for   elementary   and  early   childhood                                                             
education,  and there's  an  MAT  program for  secondary  education                                                             
similar to  the one at UAS. One  hundred percent of graduates  were                                                             
hired locally  either by MatSu or  Anchorage districts. UAA  has 40                                                             
to 50  elementary, middle  school, high  school or early  childhood                                                             
interns in  the Anchorage and MatSu  districts. It has  partnership                                                             
programs  with Kenai  and Kodiak  where the  courses are  delivered                                                             
via  distance  and  students  can complete  their  degrees  on  the                                                             
local  campus.  About  47 percent  of  courses  are  delivered  via                                                             
distance.   Other  graduate   programs  at   UAA  include   special                                                             
education,  early  childhood education,  counselor  education,  and                                                             
speech  and language  pathology. UAA  also  provides education  for                                                             
principals  and  superintendants.  It  has  an  Alaska  Educational                                                             
Innovations Network (AEIN) partnership grant that serves  over half                                                           
the students in the state and partnerships with nine districts.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:26:19 AM                                                                                                                    
DIANE  HIRSCHBERG, Researcher,  Institute  of  Social and  Economic                                                             
Research  (ISER), Anchorage,  AK,  said ISER  has  been looking  at                                                             
the  issue  of teacher  turnover  since  2000.  The  initial  study                                                             
published  in 2002  demonstrated  the  need for  further  research.                                                             
ISER has  since developed collaborative  relationships  with Alaska                                                             
Teacher  Placement, the  Department  of Education,  the  University                                                             
of Alaska  (UA), its colleges  of education  and the Department  of                                                             
Labor  and  Workforce  Development   to  develop  a  memorandum  of                                                             
understanding  that  looks  comprehensively  at  teacher  turnover,                                                             
the supply  from outside as well  as from in-state programs.  It is                                                             
currently   responding   to   requests    for   data   from   these                                                             
institutions  and feeding  it back to  them in  order to help  with                                                             
accreditation  efforts.   From  the  last  report   in  2006,  ISER                                                             
produced  the four-page summary  in the  bill packet. The  turnover                                                             
rate  is much  higher  in rural  Alaska.  The state  doesn't  train                                                             
enough teachers  within the  state to meet  the need. If  the state                                                             
could reduce  turnover it could  produce enough teachers.  There is                                                             
always a certain  amount of turnover  that has to do with  personal                                                             
lives. However,  in Alaska  the turnover rate  also has to  do with                                                             
issues like  working conditions and  salary. Addressing  this issue                                                             
might significantly  reduce turnover.  The state needs to  bring in                                                             
about 800  new teachers  per year. This  does not include  teachers                                                             
who are switching  districts or taking  a leave of absence  to have                                                             
a  child or  get another  degree.  The state  is  meeting about  25                                                             
percent  of that  need with  in-state  programs.  All the  programs                                                             
are increasing their capacity and the number of graduates.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS.  HIRSCHBERG said  one  of the  issues that  still  needs to  be                                                             
addressed   is  the  impact   of  recent   policy  changes   around                                                             
retirement,  licensure,  and changes  in  the national  market  for                                                             
teachers. Alaska  salaries are declining  relative to the  national                                                             
average.  ISER  is  putting  together a  proposal  to  study  these                                                             
issues  in  collaboration   with  Alaska  Teacher   Placement,  the                                                             
Anchorage  School District  and  UA. This  would  include a  state-                                                             
wide  survey of  teachers who  are exiting  the  profession or  the                                                             
state to  find out why  they are leaving.  ISER is also  planning a                                                             
new study of supply, demand and turnover.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:32:52 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEVENS  said  that  addressing  the  housing  problems  for                                                             
teachers  in villages  might go along  way to  solving the  problem                                                             
of turnover.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:33:39 AM                                                                                                                    
MELISSA  HILL, Director,  Teacher Placement,  University of  Alaska                                                             
Fairbanks  (UAF), Fairbanks,  AK, said she  applauds the intent  of                                                             
this bill.  Every year  there are school  districts that  start the                                                             
year without  certified  teachers in  high need  areas. The  issues                                                             
that affect  supply,  demand and  retention include  the impact  of                                                             
an  affordable   retirement   system  and   current  policies   and                                                             
regulations  regarding  what  are necessary  to  become  certified.                                                             
These  are concerns  expressed  by  superintendents  and  personnel                                                             
directors  across  the state.  Other  issues  include  the cost  of                                                             
living  and housing  in rural  Alaska, and  salaries in  comparison                                                             
to other  employment opportunities.  Many  teachers in rural  areas                                                             
have to share housing.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. Hill  applauded several  programs in  the University of  Alaska                                                             
system  focused  on recruiting  and  retaining  teachers  like  the                                                             
Future  Teachers  of  Alaska. The  Department  of  Education  Early                                                             
Development  program  has  been  hugely   successful  supporting  a                                                             
statewide  mentor  project  that  provides  daily  support  in  the                                                             
classroom for 400 first and second year teachers.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:37:13 AM                                                                                                                    
MR.PUGH  said  UAF  has  similar  distance-delivery   programs  for                                                             
communities  in  Southwest,  Northwest   and  Western  Alaska.  All                                                             
those  districts have  future  teacher programs.  There  will be  a                                                             
future teachers  conference in Juneau  this spring with  youth from                                                             
around  the  state.  Students  need  to know  about  and  take  the                                                             
correct   courses  in   high  school   because  teacher   education                                                             
programs  have become  more stringent.  He  suggested that  members                                                             
of  the committee  might  like to  meet  with these  students  when                                                             
they gather in the spring.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:38:55 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEVENS asked  Senator  Wilken  to comment  since  he was  a                                                             
member   of  the  task   force  and   this  bill   came  from   his                                                             
suggestions.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
8:39:20 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILKEN  said legislators have  tossed around the  idea that                                                             
at  least one-third  of teachers  should  come from  the state.  He                                                             
said  it's important  to focus  on driving  that number  up with  a                                                             
goal of  getting  to 50 percent.  Eight  years ago  it came to  the                                                             
attention of  the legislature that  the state was importing  nurses                                                             
at  a cost  of millions  of dollars.  Today  it is  obvious what  a                                                             
huge success  the nursing  program at the  university has  been. He                                                             
proposed doing  the same with teachers.  He said there needs  to be                                                             
a  dialogue  between  regents  and legislators  at  least  once  or                                                             
twice a year.  He thinks of the  regents as the board  of directors                                                             
of a  billion dollar  enterprise  that is the  university, and  the                                                             
legislators  as  the board  of  directors  for the  billion  dollar                                                             
budget.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
8:43:43 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEVENS said  that on  page 2, lines  5 though  7, the  bill                                                             
puts  the onus  on the  regents  to prepare  a  written report.  It                                                             
would be  good to  have a face-to-face  meeting  with them on  this                                                             
issue.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:44:10 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILKEN  said that on page  1, line 6, it says  that regents                                                             
shall prepare  and present  an annual report.  It might be  good to                                                             
embellish  the  bill to  state  where and  when,  specifically  "in                                                             
person and during the legislative session."                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
8:45:08 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEVENS said  that  whatever  the venue  and  whether it  is                                                             
with  the  Senate  HEALTH  EDUCATION  &  SOCIAL  SERVICES  STANDING                                                             
COMMITTEE  or  with  a new  standing  committee  on  education,  he                                                             
agrees there should be a face-to-face meeting.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
8:45:43 AM                                                                                                                    
MR. PUGH  said one thing  that might improve  the bill would  be to                                                             
have  this report  at the  first session.  That  and presenting  it                                                             
every other year gives the process a two-year time period.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR STEVENS  said the  way it  reads now it's  an annual  report.                                                             
He asked why Mr. Pugh was proposing two years between reports.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. PUGH explained  that ISER says  that doing it every  other year                                                             
produces  more significant  information.  Reporting  in the  second                                                             
session  doesn't  leave  much  time  to  act  on  suggestions  that                                                             
arise.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
8:47:31 AM                                                                                                                    
JOHN   ALCANTRA,    Director,   Government   Relations,    National                                                             
Education  Association  Alaska (NEA-Alaska),  Anchorage,  AK,  said                                                             
he  represents  13,000  public  school  employees   throughout  the                                                             
state. He  appreciates the  testimony of Ms.  Hill and agrees  that                                                             
policy  changes  involving  portable retirement  and  other  issues                                                             
are  having  a  dramatic  impact  on the  ability  to  recruit  and                                                             
retain  teachers.  He supports  SB  241.  He  said the  closure  of                                                             
Sheldon  Jackson College  this  year means  an  additional loss  of                                                             
educators. Rural  teacher housing,  a major cause of turnover,  has                                                             
been  a  priority  of  NEA-Alaska  since  1978.  Fifty  percent  of                                                             
teachers  leave in  the first  five years.  A  statewide survey  of                                                             
exiting teachers would be immensely valuable.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:50:27 AM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR  STEVENS proposed  a  committee  substitute  (CS) to  address                                                             
the idea  of a  meeting in  the first  year of  a two-year  session                                                             
including  where and  when. Since  the regents  meet every  spring,                                                             
that might be an appropriate time.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS.  PITNEY said  that most  discussions  are only  on budget.  She                                                             
encouraged the  committee to draft  a CS that includes  a provision                                                             
to  talk  about the  programs  face  to  face with  either  of  the                                                             
aforementioned committees.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:52:09 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  DAVIS said  she approves  of having a  report every  other                                                             
year, but recommends an update in the off year.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. LAMKIN  said there is a hearing  on the bill in the  House next                                                             
week.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
8:53:11 AM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILKEN  said he'd  like to talk about  a report  every year                                                             
versus every other year.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  STEVENS  said he  would  have a  CS  prepared  for the  next                                                             
meeting.                                                                                                                        

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